Common Questions
- What Coverage and Price will I get with the thin-set Adhesive? - What is the average price per square foot of Ceramic Tile Adhesive (The Cementitious Kind)? How many square feet can a standard package of Ceramic Tile Adhesive cover when laying tile?
- Can Ceramic Tile be Installed over CMU (concrete masonry unit) block? - Can I install Ceramic tile over a CMU wall?
- How do I install Mosaic Tiles to be Freeze Thaw Proof - I am doing a tile mosaic on a circular concrete base about two inches thick. It will be used as a table top, but will be about a hundred pounds, and difficult to move around. I would like to take precautions so that it will resist the freezing winters in the northeast. Is there anything you may be able to recommend insofar as special mortar or anything to insure it will be weather proof?
- Installation Guidelines for Ceramic Tile and Natural Stone - How do I know whether my tile installer is installing my tile correctly so it will perform well and last?
- Installation Guidelines for Ceramic Tile and Stone - How can I be sure that my tile installer will install my ceramic tile or stone correctly?
- Installation Procedures - How do I make sure my Ceramic Tile or Natural Stone gets installed correctly by my tile installer?
- How do I install Tile on an upper Exterior Patio Deck over a room? - I plan on installing tile over an outside deck with a wood subfloor. Do i need to have a Roofing Company to apply asphalt, and than do i apply to coats of permabase, to make sure the room undernith the deck doesn't get water infriltration?
- Do I need Expansion Joints? and Crack Isolation Membranes? - I have an exterior patio on ground that is and has no expansion joints, and has several cracks. What is your recommendation for the cracks or the type of barrier to be applied.
- What type of Tile should I use on my Patio? - I am a resident of South Florida and would like to tile my enclosed screened in patio. I have been reccommended to use porcelain tile but the choices are limited and have not found a suitable choice. I am re-considering using a texured ceramic tile and would like your recommendations. The patio at this time is not a high traffic area. How does a ceremic tile hold up to the high humidity and moisture?
- Vapor Barriers under Concrete Slab - We are undertaking a large tile project on Florida and need your advice. We are laying concrete in a large enclosed area by building up the heighth with dirt/sand, then compressing the soil,digging/building footers, spraying for termites, then laying ribar. Qs: Do we need a moisture barrier? Would the moisture barrier be applied after termite but before ribar? While the concrete will be inside we do intend to have non load bearing wall installed over part. will a 4" depth of concerete be sufficient? How long should be allow the concrete to cure before installing cermaic tile? Any pointers on ceramic tile installation? This project is on an Island so moisture IS an issue! Thanks!
- Why use Sealant in Transition joints? - someone else mentioned that about sealing the transition joints, I'm just curious as to why is that important, if there is a vapour barrier behind the wall?
- Exterior Deck Tile Installation - We recently added a 2nd story "veranda" and covered screened porch to our home.Roughly 300 sq ft is outside exposed to the elements. climate temperatures reach 0 degrees and we have ice and snow as well as 100 degrees in summer. Porcelain tile was used with the following specs:oefficient of Friction Durability Classification Glaze Hardness Water Absorption Shade Variation Break Strength Dry:0.65 Wet: 0.60 Class IV 8.0 Mohs <= 0.5% 4 - High 400 lbs. Average 1 layer of rubber type waterproofing was applied over advantac( osb) subfloor. The area is 750 sq ft total. then backer boards were screwed in with screws every 18 inches. The tile was set with TEC prep triple flex says it meets ANSI A118-10 specifications. The grout is TEC Accucolor 650 premium sanded grout and a ANSI A118.6 specified product. The work was completed in 2 days and the grout applied on the 3rd day. Temperatures were in 90 and full sun. please advise if this was sufficient to last long term as an exterior application with constant heat and moisture.
- Installing Porcelain Tile with Mastic - I came across your website and hope that you might be able to provide some advice, or point me in the right direction to get some. I'm renovating a small bathroom (two walls exterior facing). I spent the weekend applying porcelain floor tiles to the walls and tub surround (using proper tile backerboard - 1/2 inch)... the tiles are 12" x 12" and 16" x 16" inch - floor tile. I used mastic instead of mortar for the job, and I'm having serious second thoughts. My concern is that: a) the mastic may not be strong enough to support the weight. While installing, I used a couple of nails to support each tile. I'm thinking of leaving them in place and grouting them right in. The other concern is that moisture in the tub surround area may eventually cause the mastic to emulsify and release prematurely. I read a bit about this on various forums, and see conflicting reports about the suitability of mastic to wet areas - and or heavy tiles - I used a 1/4" x 1/4" notched trowel. Got very good adhesion while setting the tiles... but I'm worried. The grout will be 3/16"... will that grout transmit some moisture to the back of those tiles, and would that or any condensation on the back of the tiles caused by a hot shower on a cold day cause the mastic to emulsify and eventually release? hope you can provide some insight here, and keeping my fingers crossed that you'll say it should be fine. Thanks in advance for any wisdom you may provide.
- Tile Lippage (one edge higher than the other) - i am building a new home they have laided the tile down and it looks likse some of the tiles are not flat with the neighboring tile. Is there a standard amount of error allowed. to me it should all be perfect level. when you walk on it barefooted you can feel the uneveness in the tiles... thanks for you help.
- Warped Travertine Stone Tiles - I am doing a travertine job for a lady and they stored the 12 x 12 pieces under the house (on stilts) for over a year. The tile was on a pallet but the pallet was warped and sitting on a slope. Could this cause the travertine to warp?
- Bolting Table to Tile - I have a ceramic tile floor in my kitchen. I am having a booth built to replace the kitchen table. The table leg must be securred to the floor with screws or bolts, as the base of the leg will be concealed under the seating part of the bench. I'll be drilling through the sub floor as well, and the bolts will go down through the floor and sub floor and into the basement. There, nuts will be used to tighten down the bolts to really keep the table leg from moving at all. Surely, the ceramic tiles are going to crack when I tighten the bolts down. My question is, should I: (1) put a steel plate over top of the ceramic tile and drill through that, because if the tiles break up the steel plate will still hold everything in place, or: (2) remove ceramic tiles that would have to be drilled through, and replace them with another material of the same thickness that wouldn't break or crack? I search for ceramic tile experts and came to your site. If one of the experts has any thoughts on this and can offer any suggestions, I would be extremely grateful.
- Adhesive and Grout for Underwater - Is there a waterproof grout and adhesive? One that could be underwater such as in a birdbath?
- Installing an Exterior Deck - I'm installing tile on 3/4" plywood subflooring (interior grade and cannot be changed)on an exterior, covered balcony over occupied interior space. Rain may blow in onto the tile. Any recommendations for the layers and waterproofing? I planned to install sloped cement, then EDPM pond liner, then 1/2" cement board painted with Red Guard, and then the tile with drains.
- Replacing Existing Tile over Mortar Bed - I have porcelain tile in my kitchen, installed by previous owners. Cabinets, fridge, stove, etc, are on top of the tile. The tile is white, picks up all dirt, food, etc and I want to replace. Contractors I've talked to are worried about how to remove it; if it was laid with a 'wet bed" and whether they can safely and professionally remove the tile and lay somethign else down. I can't lay new flooring on top, because it would be too high. I thought this would be a common problem, but apparently, it's not. do you have any suggestions? I live outside of Philadelphia. Thanks--I could really use a professional opinion.
- Installing Tile over Epoxy Floor - Can ceranmic tile be laid on an epoxy floor? If so, does any special prep need to be done?
- Installing Porcelain Tile over Painted Concrete - I would like to place porcelain tile over a painted concrete slab. How should I do this?
- Can you install tile over Wood - I am an art teacher and we want to make a tile,ceramic sign. Can tiles be adhered to plywood for a sign? I can't find the answer anywhere on the web. We are handmaking our sign with a slab roller.
- Tile over Tile Installation - Can I install new ceramic floor tiles over the exhisting ceramic tile floor in my kitchen? Does the old floor have to be prepared in any way? What type of morter/bonding agent should I use? The reason for the new installation: quite a few tiles have cracked over the years and we would like to update the look of the floor. The cracks are thin hairline cracks due to the home being over 100 years old and the foundation being uneven, a contractor tried to "jack up" the home after the tile was originally installed causing some minor cracks.
- Mortar Bed Compressive Strength - An architect has requested that the mortar bed be at least 4000 PSI compressive strength. Do you know on average what a typical TCA F-111 would be with standard raw sand and cement? Any information will be appreciated.
- Trim - I have 1/2" travertine in 8" x8" being installed on bathroom walls. Could you please let me know if there is anything else besides quarter round for the exposed edges (I have 1/2" scratch and brown coat on walls, I need something that will make up at least 1" thickness from the wall).
- Silicone Adhesive for Marble - I was curious about using silicone to attach marble in a shower installation?
- Substrate and Movement Joints - I'm installing 18"x18" tile to a very large area of floor, the floor starts over a heated basement,continues over a unheated crawl space and finishes over a concrete slab. what would the correct method in installing this tile over different areas, would i need to install expansion joints, if so, what type?
- Stone Installation subfloor - For a travertine install, I have 5/8 subfloor existing (square edge)and plan on using 3/4 u/l. AC fir grade is very expensive, cdx fir square edge in the middle and 3/4 tongue and groove is still $30. a sheet. If I use a crack suppression membrane like "Detra", which u/l should I use for the project?
- Outdoor Counter Top Re-Installation - I have an outdoor counter topped with 6x6 ceramic tiles, but the installer failed to ensure that the wood was properly protected. After five years, the plywood underlayment has rotted. I have been able to remove most of the now unmatchable tile, but it still has the mastic and the "wonderboard" adhering to it. What is the best method for removing this backing so that I may reconstruct the counter?
- Floor Warming - IS THERE A WAY OF HEATING A BATHROOM TILE FLOOR FROM THE BASEMENT BELOW. IS THERE SOME PRODUCT THAT CAN BE ATTACHED TO THE SUBFLOOR BETWEEN THE JOISTS IN THE BASEMENT?
- Installing Tile in Spa or Swimming Pool - I am in the process of installing new tile in the spa. some of the tile will be in water, the bottom of the spa is plaster. I have consulted with employees at several stores with a very conflicting amount of installing information and products to use. I would like the job done right the first time! I have installed tile on floors but this has to be water proof. The spa is in the down stairs bath, in the ground, with plaster. I have removed the tile and it looks like a gray thin set was used. It was attached to wood and cement. The old tile lasted 15 years but the grouting and some of the tile came loose. I wanted the new tile so I tackled the job. What kind of thin set and grouting should I use. My new tile is in sheets. What color grouting and does this come in mixed or do I mix with a special glue used for grouting and thin set?
- Ceramic Tile Suitable Substrate - I am a mosaic artist and I would like to know what surfaces tile can adhere to and when I need and don't need to use cement board. For example can tile adhere to surfaces such as glass, drywall, or particle wood without the use of a cement board?
- Ceramic tile over an existing ceramic tile installation - Can kitchen counter tile be installed over the existing counter without having to rip it out first?
- Installing Stair Trim - I have bought some tiles to finish an external concrete staircase. The tiles come with a separate bullnose edge. The treads and risers will be laid using cement/sand mix. What is your opinion regarding the method of installation of the bullnose. Should I fix the bullnose to the horizontal tile (tread) using some adhesive and then lay them together once they're bonded? In this case, what adhesive should I use? Is an epoxy adhesive appropriate?
- Sealing Tile - I installed a porous ceramic tile on a counter. I have sealed it with a 20 year teflon sealer. The tile is not glossy at all and I would like to have some shine on it. What can I use. I tested some polyurathane on some of the leftover tile and it was fine, but I don't want to do that on the counter unless I know that it is okay. Help!....Please
- Installing in a Basement - I want to install either ceramic tile or stone on a new basement floor I am having installed right now. What do I need to do to prepare for that installation?
- Adhering Tile to Ceiling - I'm putting up 6x8 tiles on a ceiling in my shower. They won't stay up long enough for the cement to dry. Is there a special cement, or how can we do it?
- Sealing Tile - I installed a porous ceramic tile on a counter. I have sealed it with a 20 year teflon sealer. The tile is not glossy at all and I would like to have some shine on it. What can I use. I tested some polyurathane on some of the leftover tile and it was fine, but I don't want to do that on the counter unless I know that it is okay. Help!....Please
- Exterior Chimney - Do you have any information on tiling the exterior of a stucco chimney? Below freezing in winter. Thanks
- Exterior Deck - Is it possible to adhere ceramic tiles to a waterproofing membrane over a concrete roof structure, over interior space in a climate such as Seattle?
- Layout - My husband is having trouble with the layout/cuts in the ceramic tile for our tub/shower area. There is an un-centered window in the primary wall. He keeps saying "no matter how I figure it, I still end up with 1/2" gap at the top of wall". Is there any way you can tell him what he's doing wrong? Thanks SOOO MUCH!
- Floor Preparation - Under the wall to wall carpeting that is there now, the floor is made of three materials. About 4 feet of it is old original 1/2 inch tiles and a large area that is cement (which was used to fill in large gaps of missing tile). What should I do?
- Install over Paint - We will be installing ceramic tile on concrete floors in the future, but for now, we would like to paint the floors. Will this effect installation in the future?
- Can you install ceramic tile over wood?
- Cutting Tile Curve - I would appreciate some advise on the best method or tools to use to cut a large curve around a bathtub. I am planning to use 12" x 12" ceramic tiles. I would like to install them without moulding. All of the tile saws I have are straight line cutters. What can I buy rent to cut a curve from a template?
- Installing ceramic tile on vinyl - My daughter recently bought a newly constructed spec home. She decided to have the vinly flooring changed to ceramic tile. She presumed the installers would take care of the prep and advise of any problems or challenges. She has found out that the tiles were layed on the existing flooring. Now her appliances will not fit. What other kinds of problems might she encounter as a result? Shouldn't the installers have pulled up the vinyl? Please advise all pros and cons and what she should do or insist on the having done.
- Installing Ceramic Tile on a Counter Top - I'm planning to install glazed floor tile (12x12) over cement board for a counter top. Any issues with this? And I plan to have 1/8" joints. What grout type would you recommend? Thanks for the help.
- Grout Joint Width - I have a remodel job being done on our master bath. 13x20 tiles are being used both in the shower and the main floor. I told them I don't want any grout line to speak of. The shower is almost complete. They pushed the tiles totally together (which I don't think is right) and there are gaps in other areas. I have as of today talked to a business that sells tile and asked them about this and they said there has to be a grout line in between the tiles, whether it is 1/16, 1/8 but tht there has to be space. Is this right and what is the smallest space that can be used? These people told me that there has to be some sort of a grout line because of possible movement in the wall. I plan on this same tile to be used on the floor in the bathroom so I want to get this right. Please Help!!! ASAP!
- Warming Tile - We are building a new home and I am wondering which type of tile would be warmer on the feet,ceramic or porcelain? It will be installed on a subfloor.
- Travertine Tile installed on a Laminate Countertop - Can travertine tile be installed directly to a kitchen laminate countertop or would a backer board be needed? Thanks
- Flush Sinks in Granite Top - Granite counter top sink cutouts are not as I ordered. I ordered the sink cutouts on counter tops made for our kitchen to be made FLUSH with the sink bowls.The sink manufacturer specified this on the prep sink cutout for accessories but not on the two bowl sink. I ordered the two bowl to be flush as well to match.They had both sinks in house and I provided them detailed drawings for reference.The tops were delivered with a 3/16 reveal on both sinks. The fabricator claims they are both to industry standards and refused to replace them. They say my directions were not writen into the contract so I should take them the way they are or take them to court. Do I have a legitimate gripe here or am I stuck with tops? Where could I acquire a copy of "industry standards"for the granite counter top industry? I tried the local BBB and NARI. They could not help.
- Should I use a Mortar Bed or a Backer Board under the tile - I have torn out my 7'x7' bathroom floor including what i think was a mortar bed - (a very sandy mixture). Now my floor is down to the concrete slab which is too low for me to install my tile. How do I raise or make a new mortar bed to raise my floor up at least 1 1/2"? Do I still need to apply backer board too after this is done or just put the tile directy on the new bed?
- Grouting Shower Walls - do I need to grout the wall tiles in my bathroom shower?
- Sealant/Caulking for Tile next to Woodstove - Need to use AccuColor sanded siliconized acrylic latex caulk around tiles being installed near a woodstove. Wanted to know if it can withstand high temperatures after application. The areas exposed to heat will only be about 120 degrees max. probably. Nothing was mentioned on caulk tube about temps it could withstand. Only mentioned temps in regards to when product is applied. Thank-you
- Sealant and Backer Rod for Bath tub to wall tile joint transition - I would like to try using polyethylene backer rod to solve my problem of a crack at the joint between the tub and the tile. What size backer rod should I be trying to use? With water in the tub, the crack was opening up to close to 1/4 inch. (Without water it's negligible.)
- Exterior Deck Installation - We are going to set porcelain tile on an exterior wood deck next week. We will install cementitious backer board first. Question is, since weather will likely be in 30's and 40's in the mornings, do we need to use a special thinset? We use a very good quality polymer fortified thinset for most every job. Will this be OK in the colder temps? We're talking high desert in AZ.
- Installing 18" x 18" tile in a bathroom - I am tiling my bathroom and want to use 18x18 tiles on the wall (wet area over backer board, dry area over drywall). Can I do that? Is there anything special I would need?
- Installations over CMU (concrete masonry unit)- Applying ceramic tile directly over CMU with latex modified mortar thin set on exterior wall, what type of waterproofing / moisture barrier do you apply on CMU ? Or do you even recommend the method of direct application of ceramic tile on CMU with thin set mortar ? Thanks,
- Slab Stone Vanity Installation - I had a company install Giallo Ornamental in my bath. I thought they were going to do a 2cm with a laminated edge on a plywood base. In fact, the owner showed me his shop and the high quality plywood. When the stone arrived at my home it was only 2cm. Apparently there was a big miscommunication error and I know have no plywood base. The granite it installed with two vessel sinks (one hole is cut so that the bowl rests down 3" within the granite and has no support). I worry about the strength of the countertop as one stretch is a diamond shape and is 54" long. Please let me know if it is better to have it ripped up and done the way I expected or to just put decking underneath the slab and within the cabinet. Thank you for your help.
- Installing Stone over Exterior Porch - I would like to install stone tile over a crawl space in a unheated porch. Will it work? Temp. range 90to -5.
- Install Floor Tile at Cabinets - I'm planning on changing my ceramic tiles in the house. My problem is how do I do it without moving the kitchen or vanity cabinets? I can move the fridge and stove to re-tile, but moving the cabinets is a big undertaking. Is there any device where I can cut the tile where the bottom of the cabinet touches the floor?
- Installing over Wood - Is it possible to tile a wood stair case without having cracks in the grout and tile after a few years?
- Sound Control Flooring Systems - I need info for material recommended for sound dampening underlayment material to be installed atop concrete flooring & under ceramic tile. Our Condo Association requires but can't find source.
- Tile over Tile Installation - I am considering installing travertine or marble flooring over existing 8" ceramic tile. The job is less than 1000 square feet and the existing tile is very secure and level. Also, the additional height to the floor will not pose any problems. Can you please provide any tips or advice regarding this situation. I am thinking there would be a specific type of thin-set which one would need to use in order to obtain excellent adherence to the smooth tile surface.
- Do Not Install over Plywood for Exterior Use - I am looking for an adhesive for an outdoor red clay mural we are making at our school. The flat clay figures have been kiln fired. They will be attached to plywood. The school is on the CA Central Coast. The temperatures range from low 30's to low 90's. Thank you for any help you can give us. We made one mural several years ago using mastic and some pieces have fallen off. Thank you!
- Install Stone Over Wood Subfloor - We are getting ready to install Travertine Natural Stone 18"X18" in our kitchen. It is a raised wooden subfloor. I am worried about the weight of the stone. There is a solid concrete wall underneath the two long sides of the kitchen. There are plenty of concrete pillars in the middle of the floor. Do you have any suggestions to ease my mind? or resources?
- Propane Heater Problems - My contractor says portable propane heat is ok to use when installing ceramic tile. The tile stores say NO. Who is right?
- Installing Tile on wood stair risers - I am interested in installing some ceramic tiles on staircase risers. I removed old carpeting from the staircase and got down to the wood staircase. I would like to leave the treads wood and install possibly Talavera tiles over the remaining wood substrate risers. What might be the recommended procedures and can I install the ceramic tile over the wood without using backerboard as well.
- Modified Thin-set Cementitious Adhesives - Can you tell me the difference between latex modified thin-set and polymer modified thin-set?
- Old Thin-set Removal - The first floor of my house is currently comprised of carpet in the living areas and tile in the kitchen and major hallways. I would like to install travertine through out the entire first floor. I've removed all the tile, but the thinset used to attatch the old tile is firmly attached to the concrete. The height difference between the thinset and the concrete foundation (after I removed the carpet) is negligible. Is it critical that I remove (scarify) all the adhering thinset on the floor prior to installing travertine? What is your recommended floor preparation under these circumstances? I want the foundation to be solid and the job to be done correctly, and would greatly appreciate your advice. My house is 12 years old and is located in the area of Phoenix, AZ. Thank you very much.
- Tile Installation over Cracks - I am building a house in Florida, and the slab is a year old, and its cracked. Before I install the ceramic tile, should I use any kind of underlayment to prevent the tile from cracking, and if yes, what kind? Can I use roof paper as an underlayment? I will appreciate your answer, thank you!
- Installing over Formica - I wish to cover my formica counter tops with 12" x 12" marble tiles. Question. Can I secure the tiles directly onto the formica and if so, what adhesive do you recommend?
- Shower base Tile - Do Wall tiles need to sit on top of floor tiles in wet areas?
- Removing Ceramic Tile - What is the best way to remove the tile on my bathroom walls? Is there a way to put wooden paneling over it?
- Installing over Existing Tile - IN MY KITCHEN WE HAVE THE WORST LOOKIN TILE ON THE WALLS EVER HOW COULD I STUCCO OVER IT OR CAN IT BE DONE I WAS TOLD THAT I COULD USE STUCCO AND PAINT OVER IT WILL THIS WORK ?? OR WILL IT BE A NIGHTMARE? THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE.
- Movement joint at wall perimeter - What do you think of running tile to the baseboard and then grouting between the baseboard and the tile? Would this increase the chances of tile cracking?
- Exterior Tile Installation - We purchased some ceramic tiles showing St. Jude in Santa Fe recently. We would like to use them outside in a small shrine. What should they be mounted on, with what type of mastic and what kind of grout. Maryland weather can be freezing or hot. The tiles would be covered on top, back and sides but open in the front.
- Installing Thin Glass Deco Inserts - We’re using GE Silicon to glue a piece of our glass mosaic to a piece of Formica in order to increase the thickness so it can be dropped into a stone border design. Do you see any drawbacks to this? The scored Formica back will be in contact with the thinset, or whatever setting method is used for the stone. The piece of glass will not be more than 2”x2”. Will the silicon yellow in sunlight? Can the silicon withstand freeze-thaw cycles? Any other questions I should be asking the manufacturer?
- Removing the old tile - I have a 15 year old outdoor patio consisting of 12 x 12 ceramic tiles placed over a cement foundation. The tiles are cracking and I would like to remove tiles (slippery, indoor tiles) and replace them with outdoor tile. My problem is how do I remove the tiles along with the adhesive to make the cement "clean and level" to accept new tiles?
- Removing Ceramic Tile - I have job to remove thousands of sq. ft of ceramic tiles. Any suggestions on the type of equipment to remove the ceramic tiles and adhesive (thinset)? We are not allowed to use any equipment that will produce odor within the building.
- Selecting an Installer - where would I start to find a good contractor and the best job for the price? Where would I begin? What should I be looking for? What questions should I remember to ask a contractor? Please respond if this is possible.
Can Ceramic Tile be Installed over CMU (concrete masonry unit) block? - Can I install Ceramic tile over a CMU wall?
ANSWER - Yes you can install ceramic tile over CMU (concrete masonry unit) blocks. You need to properly prepare it to make sure it is free of any structural cracks, clean, and plumb. You can bond the tile directly to it or you can fasten metal lath and apply a scratch and brown coat of mortar. For a direct bond to the CMU, it is recommended to skim coat it with the thin-set mortar to smooth it out prior to applying a liquid applied waterproof/crack isolation membrane. Then use a high performance modified thin-set mortar exceeding ANSI A118.4 and make sure you achieve 95% contact bonding the tile to the membrane. Then grout it. To see a list of manufacturers who produce tile installation products go to our website at www.CTaSC.com and go to the Resource and Links page and there will be a list with links to their websites. Good luck.
Updated: June 2nd 2010
How do I install Mosaic Tiles to be Freeze Thaw Proof - I am doing a tile mosaic on a circular concrete base about two inches thick. It will be used as a table top, but will be about a hundred pounds, and difficult to move around. I would like to take precautions so that it will resist the freezing winters in the northeast. Is there anything you may be able to recommend insofar as special mortar or anything to insure it will be weather proof?
ANSWER - First you need to verify that your mosaic is frost proof/freeze thaw stable. If it is porcelain or vitreous clay tile it is possibly frost proof. If it is a stone mosaic then it may or may not be frost proof. The more dense/less porosity the stone the more likely it will be frost proof. If it is a glass mosaic it in itself is normally frost proof, but it needs be properly bonded. As far as what to use to bond the mosaic to the concrete base it depends. You can use a latex or polymer modified thin-set mortar that is recommended for freeze thaw applications. You can use an epoxy adhesive for tile and that would work since it doesn't absorb moisture and has great bond strength. It is critical that the concrete base is properly scarified to open its pores to ensure a good attachment prior to installation. I would further recommend applying a liquid applied tile waterproof membrane first and then bond the mosaic to the membrane. That will help keep the moisture out of the concrete and provide some protection from getting efflorescence from the concrete migrating to the surface of the tile. For a list of tile installation product manufacturers with links to their websites go to our website at www.CTaSC.com to the resources and links page. good luck.
Updated: May 27th 2010
Installation Guidelines for Ceramic Tile and Natural Stone - How do I know whether my tile installer is installing my tile correctly so it will perform well and last?
ANSWER - You as the owner need to either hirer a qualified third party tile quality control company such as Ceramic Tile And Stone Consultants (www.CTaSC.com) or you need to be the quality control inspector yourself. You have to get the data sheets of all the products being used to include the tile data sheet, the thin-set data sheet, the backer board data sheet, the floor warming data sheet, the waterproofing data sheet, the grout data sheet, the sealant (caulking) data sheet, the sealer data sheet, etc. Then you need to read the data sheets to make sure the installer is explicitely falling the data sheets. If the installer doesn't follow the product data sheets and industry standards then any warranties become void. In addition to that here is CTaSC's Installation Guidelines that you can use to help you better understand how a ceramic tile or natural stone should be installed: CTaSC Installation Guidelines. Good Luck.
Updated: May 4th 2010
Installation Guidelines for Ceramic Tile and Stone - How can I be sure that my tile installer will install my ceramic tile or stone correctly?
ANSWER - The key to a quality and succesful tile installation that will last many years is to have a quality control plan to ensure your installer is installing the tile correctly per industry standards. If you can't afford to hire a qualified third party to implement the quality control plan then YOU must be the QC inspector to make sure it gets installed correctly. The installer may have 30 years experience, but he probably is not familiar with all of the standards of the industry. For some general installation guidelines download the following: Tile Installation Guidelines.
Updated: May 4th 2010
Installation Procedures - How do I make sure my Ceramic Tile or Natural Stone gets installed correctly by my tile installer?
ANSWER - Hiring the right installer is the difference between a delightful result and a nightmare. Most installers don’t go to school to learn the trade, so even with good intentions, more often than not they don’t understand the complexity of the work, and they don’t know the industry standards. So as a homeowner you need to act as the quality control inspector, making sure that industry standards and manufacturers’ instructions are followed. It’s important that you do your homework and learn what’s required to properly install a tile floor so it will last. For Guidelines for Ceramic Tile and Stone tile Residential Installations click here: Installation Guidelines.
Updated: May 4th 2010
How do I install Tile on an upper Exterior Patio Deck over a room? - I plan on installing tile over an outside deck with a wood subfloor. Do i need to have a Roofing Company to apply asphalt, and than do i apply to coats of permabase, to make sure the room undernith the deck doesn't get water infriltration?
ANSWER - Exterior decks are very problematic if they are not installed correctly, particularly if there is occupied space underneath it. There are several steps necessary to make sure your tile deck will perform as intended. First, you need to make sure it is structurally sound to be able to take the weight and that it will not cause too much deflection. Make sure it is IRC compliant by having a structural engineer inspect it. Next you need to determine how the water will drain off the deck. Will you install a drain or will you have it run off the edge into a gutter? Next you need to create a pre-slope substrate by applying a concrete bed with a slope to drain. Then you properly apply a roofing membrane such as hot mop asphalt coating or apply a sheet waterproof membrane. Then you should apply a mortar bed over the membrane or there are membranes that you can bond the tile directly to it if it is appropriate to eliminate the top mortar bed. If you apply the mortar bed then apply a secondary waterproof membrane over it of the type that allows you to bond the tile directly to the membrane. Be sure to do at least a 48 hour water test to make sure it doesn't leak. You mention Permabase which is a cementitious backer board. it is possible to use a backer board rather than a mortar bed, but it would be difficult to achieve an adequate slope on its surface. Make sure you have movement joints (expansion joints) placed within the tile assembly every 8 to 12 feet. Make sure you have perimeter movement joints filled with a proper ASTM C920 sealant (caulking). Make sure the tile is installed achieving 95% full thin-set contact between the tile and its substrate. It is important to provide quality control inspections to make sure the installers follow industry standards and manufacturer's installation directions for each component of the installation. If it is afordable you should hire a consultant like ourselves to write the installation specifications, provide a quality control plan, and to perform quality control inspections. If it isn't affordable then go to our website at www.CTaSC.com to FAQ page under installations and print a copy of the Quality Control Installation Guidelines we provide at no charge as a industry community service. Good luck.
Updated: May 4th 2010
What type of Tile should I use on my Patio? - I am a resident of South Florida and would like to tile my enclosed screened in patio. I have been reccommended to use porcelain tile but the choices are limited and have not found a suitable choice. I am re-considering using a texured ceramic tile and would like your recommendations. The patio at this time is not a high traffic area. How does a ceremic tile hold up to the high humidity and moisture?
ANSWER - Porcelain tile is considered one of the best tiles in terms of durability and resistance to moisture. There are other types of ceramic tile that will perform well too, but you need to make sure that they are at least a vitreous body tile with a glazed tile surface that is at least rated as a 4 for wearability and that it has a slip resistant surface. There are some types of stone that would work well too. Once you determine you have the suitable tile in terms of wear, slip resistance and aesthetics, then it is critical that it is installed correctly to get the full performance and benefits from the tile installation. There are lots of options to consider. It it isn't practical to hire a consultant as CTaSC then go to our www.CTaSC.com website and listed under Resources and Links under installations there is a free document to help you understand the steps to ensure a successful installation. Good Luck,
Updated: May 2nd 2010
Vapor Barriers under Concrete Slab - We are undertaking a large tile project on Florida and need your advice. We are laying concrete in a large enclosed area by building up the heighth with dirt/sand, then compressing the soil,digging/building footers, spraying for termites, then laying ribar.
Qs: Do we need a moisture barrier? Would the moisture barrier be applied after termite but before ribar? While the concrete will be inside we do intend to have non load bearing wall installed over part. will a 4" depth of concerete be sufficient? How long should be allow the concrete to cure before installing cermaic tile? Any pointers on ceramic tile installation?
This project is on an Island so moisture IS an issue! Thanks!
ANSWER - Yes, you always need a vapor retarder (barrier) per ASTM E1643. The vapor retarder should continue up the sides of the foundation to prevent lateral migration of moisture. Sometimes a sand bed can be applied over the retarder and sometimes not depending on the situation. The thickness of the concrete depends on the intended use and condition of the soil below it, but generally 4" thickness is ok for light traffic residential applications over a structurally sound landscape. The general rule is to wait 28 days or curing before installing tile, but it depends on the recommendations of the installation products you will be using. We do provide a complimentary copy of some general installation guidelines for owners to use to help make sure they get a successful tile installation. Visit our website at www.CTaSC.com and go to the FAQ section and look under Installation of Ceramic Tile and Stone and select the first question. As a consultant CTaSC does provide customized installation specifications and guidelines, and provides quality control services during the installation. Cost is based on the current CTaSC fee schedule.
Updated: March 25th 2010
Replacing Existing Tile over Mortar Bed - I have porcelain tile in my kitchen, installed by previous owners. Cabinets, fridge, stove, etc, are on top of the tile. The tile is white, picks up all dirt, food, etc and I want to replace. Contractors I've talked to are worried about how to remove it; if it was laid with a 'wet bed" and whether they can safely and professionally remove the tile and lay somethign else down. I can't lay new flooring on top, because it would be too high. I thought this would be a common problem, but apparently, it's not. do you have any suggestions? I live outside of Philadelphia. Thanks--I could really use a professional opinion.
ANSWER - It sounds odd that the installers are saying they are worried about removing the old tile. If it was installed in a wet-set method where they installed the tile over the freshly installed cement mortar bed then I would expect some of the mortar bed to break loose as the tiles are removed, but there is a chance that some of the tiles will come loose without excessive damage to the mortar bed. The tiles should be removed by chiseling laterally to shear them off the surface of the mortar bed. This should not be a problem if the installers are skilled at installing and removing mortar bed installations. After the tile is removed the mortar bed surface needs to be scarified and then any holes or divots in the mortar bed have to be filled with a proper patch material. There is a Installatin Guidelines document you can download from our website by clicking here: Tile Installation Guidelines.
Updated: May 5th 2009
Installing Tile over Epoxy Floor - Can ceranmic tile be laid on an epoxy floor? If so, does any special prep need to be done?
ANSWER - In theory a ceramic or stone tile could be installed over an epoxy floor, but it could be problematic depending on the conditions. The substrate must be suitable and sound for the application. The epoxy coating has to be tenaciously attached to the substrate because if it debones so does the tile. The floor must be flat or sloped for the intended use or any inconsistencies will be telegraphed through the tile. You have to use epoxy to bond to epoxy. So an appropriate epoxy adhesive must be used, which is more expensive. Each of the major manufacturer's of installation products sell epoxy adhesives (go to our website at www.CTaSC.com and look under resources and links and go to Installation products) The epoxy floor has to be prepared by cleaning it and possibly needing to scarify it in order to get a good attachment. Follow epoxy adhesive manufacturer's instructions. It is possible to apply an modified cementitious epoxy adhesive to the existing epoxy floor and then apply a cementitious self-leveling or trowelable underlayment on top of it, and then bond the tile to it with a normal modified thin-set mortar. Good Luck,
Updated: April 8th 2009
Tile over Tile Installation - Can I install new ceramic floor tiles over the exhisting ceramic tile floor in my kitchen? Does the old floor have to be prepared in any way? What type of morter/bonding agent should I use? The reason for the new installation: quite a few tiles have cracked over the years and we would like to update the look of the floor. The cracks are thin hairline cracks due to the home being over 100 years old and the foundation being uneven, a contractor tried to "jack up" the home after the tile was originally installed causing some minor cracks.
ANSWER - There is a lot to installing a tile correctly so I can only briefly answer your questions and give you references. You can install ceramic tile over properly prepared existing ceramic tile if you use an appropriate thin-set adhesive recommended for that application. Go to our website Resources and Links section and go to installation product manufacturers to determine which products you can use. /Resources_and_Links/Installation_Products/. Keep in mind that the new tile will only be installed as well as the existing tile. If the existing tile is not attached well then the new tile will not be well attached. Tiles are not suppose to crack so it is either an indication they were not installed correctly or there are cracks telegraphing up from the substrate. Those conditions needs to be repaired first. In some applications you can use a crack isolation membrane but that would require that you remove the existing tile. Our FAQ section on our website has more information on tile over tile installations that you can review. To get some guidelines on how tile installations should be installed go to our website under FAQ Ceramic Tile and Stone Installations and go to question/answer #46 to download an installation guideline (/FAQs/Installation/#FAQ_10106). Good Luck!
Updated: October 18th 2008
Floor Warming - IS THERE A WAY OF HEATING A BATHROOM TILE FLOOR FROM THE BASEMENT BELOW. IS THERE SOME PRODUCT THAT CAN BE ATTACHED TO THE SUBFLOOR BETWEEN THE JOISTS IN THE BASEMENT?
You could probably install some type of heating device on the bottom of the wood subfloor between your joists, but I wouldn't expect it would be very effective. Wood is not a good conductor of heat for transferring it up to the bathroom floor surface, and you would have to insulate it to keep the heat from transferring elsewhere. Plus it could be a safety hazard. Best option is to remove the existing bathroom floor finish and install a floor warming system and then install ceramic tile or stone on top of that. For more information on the floor warming systems go to the Resources and Links section of our website.
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Installing Tile in Spa or Swimming Pool - I am in the process of installing new tile in the spa. some of the tile will be in water, the bottom of the spa is plaster.
I have consulted with employees at several stores with a very conflicting amount of installing information and products to use.
I would like the job done right the first time! I have installed tile on floors but this has to be water proof.
The spa is in the down stairs bath, in the ground, with plaster. I have removed the tile and it looks like a gray thin set was used. It was attached to wood and cement. The old tile lasted 15 years but the grouting and some of the tile came loose. I wanted the new tile so I tackled the job.
What kind of thin set and grouting should I use. My new tile is in sheets. What color grouting and does this come in mixed or do I mix with a special glue used for grouting and thin set?
I will assume the spa surface will be a plaster material. You mentioned something about wood, but never install directly over wood in a wet area. Whether you are tiling the whole spa or just at the water line, I would recommend applying a liquid waterproof membrane first over the properly prepared clean and sound plaster surface. Laticrete has one called 9235 Waterproof membrane and Custom has one called Red Guard and there are others. Go to references and links to installation products for their website links.
The membrane will provide some protection against efflorescence (leaching of salts and plasticizers from the plaster on to the surface of the tile) and shrinkage cracking. Then use a polymer modified (multipurpose) or latex modified thin-set that is recommended for swimming pools to adhere the tile to the membrane. Read the bags or data sheets to be sure, but most good quality products will work under water, although some won't!. Use white thin-set if you are using white grout, so the thin-set doesn't show through the grout. You can use polymer or latex modified grout, which will work fine, but for maximum protection use an epoxy grout. Epoxy grout is more difficult to use and more expensive.
Be sure to follow the instructions from the manufacture of each product you use!!!
Good Luck!
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Sealing Tile - I installed a porous ceramic tile on a counter. I have sealed it with a 20 year teflon sealer. The tile is not glossy at all and I would like to have some shine on it. What can I use. I tested some polyurathane on some of the leftover tile and it was fine, but I don't want to do that on the counter unless I know that it is okay. Help!....Please
The sealers that are specifically designed for ceramic tile and stone are normally provided in two categories. One is a breathable penetrating sealer that tends to not change the appearance of the tile and the other is a non-breathable surface sealer that tends to give you a glossy look. The surface sealers are non-breathable and if moisture gets trapped in the tile under the sealer it could cause a cloudy discoloring. Some of the surface sealers tend to show wear patterns. The penetrating sealers allow moisture in a vapor stage to pass through. They do have some color enhancing versions that will give you somewhat of a glossy look. The sealers you are referencing are normally used to seal other types of products, and they would have to be qualified to see if they are suitable or not for a ceramic tile application. Make sure they are recommended for food preparation areas. Chances are that you will have to strip off your Teflon sealer before you can apply another, unless you can find a compatible sealer that will allow you to go over the top of it. For more information on sealers go to the cleaners and sealers section of our website's resource and links section at Cleaners and Sealers. Good Luck!
Regarding your porous ceramic tile that you installed on your kitchen counter top, I assume it is an unglazed/through body tile.
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Installing in a Basement - I want to install either ceramic tile or stone on a new basement floor I am having installed right now. What do I need to do to prepare for that installation?
Hopefully your installers placed a vapor barrier under your basement slab before they poured it, to control the flow of moisture. Plus, after the installation, you should make sure you have adequate air cirulation and ventilation in the basement to avoid high moisture levels that can lead to mold. After the slab has cured for at least 28 days (with good ventilation) then you can start your ceramic tile or stone installation. It is recommended that you install a waterproof membrane over the slab and then install the tile on top of it, if you are not going to install a mortar bed on top of the slab first. If you are going to install a wire reinforced mortar bed over the slab, a better and more expensive way to go, then a 15 lb roofing felt or 4 mil polyethylene film should be placed on the slab first as a cleavage membrane and for moisture protection. For the liquid applied waterproof membranes that are specifically made to have tile attached to it go see the companies listed on my website. Many of those companies supply all the products you would need to install your tile. Good Luck!
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Adhering Tile to Ceiling - I'm putting up 6x8 tiles on a ceiling in my shower. They won't stay up long enough for the cement to dry. Is there a special cement, or how can we do it?
Normally the light weight 6x8 type ceramic bodied tiles stay up with a good tacky non-sag thin-set or mastic. Depends on what type of substrate you are going over. If the substrate is concrete, which it should be for the best installation, then you can use a good quality polymer modified thin-set (also know as multi-purpose thin-set); preferably a non-sag thin-set. If you are going over green board or other non-cement backer boards you can use a non-sag mastic adhesive. There is an epoxy that Laticrete makes called Latapoxy 310 and it definitely will hold the tile in place and sets up fast, but it is more expensive and more difficult to work with. You can go to the Installation Products section under Resources and Links section of our website at Installation Products to located these products from the various manufacturers. Good Luck!
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Sealing Tile - I installed a porous ceramic tile on a counter. I have sealed it with a 20 year teflon sealer. The tile is not glossy at all and I would like to have some shine on it. What can I use. I tested some polyurathane on some of the leftover tile and it was fine, but I don't want to do that on the counter unless I know that it is okay. Help!....Please
Regarding your porous ceramic tile that you installed on your kitchen counter top, I assume it is an unglazed/through body tile. The sealers that are specifically designed for ceramic tile and stone are normally provided in two categories. One is a breathable penetrating sealer that tends to not change the appearance of the tile and the other is a non-breathable surface sealer that tends to give you a glossy look. The surface sealers are non-breathable and if moisture gets trapped in the tile under the sealer it could cause a cloudy discoloring. Some of the surface sealers tend to show wear patterns. The penetrating sealers allow moisture in a vapor stage to pass through. They do have some color enhancing versions that will give you somewhat of a glossy look. The sealers you are referencing are normally used to seal other types of products, and they would have to be qualified to see if they are suitable or not for a ceramic tile application. Make sure they are recommended for food preparation areas. Chances are that you will have to strip off your Teflon sealer before you can apply another, unless you can find a compatible sealer that will allow you to go over the top of it. For more information on sealers go to the cleaners and sealers section of our website's resource and links section at Cleaners and Sealers.Good Luck!
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Exterior Chimney - Do you have any information on tiling the exterior of a stucco chimney? Below freezing in winter. Thanks
If the stucco is structurally stable, clean and free of contaminates the tile/stone can be adhered with a modified thin-set adhesive or an epoxy adhesive. Depends on what kind of tile it is and on the type and condition of the stucco. Laticrete International (www.laticrete.com) has an epoxy adhesive called Latapoxy 310 and a selection of different thin-sets, so you may consider contacting them for their recommendations. Good Luck!
There is no specific info on tiling over exterior stucco that I'm aware of, although it can be done if the stucco is, in fact, a concrete product and structurally stable.
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Can you install ceramic tile over wood?
It is never recommended to install directly to any type of wood, but it is done and there are products available for installing to exterior grade plywood. Of course you never install over plywood on an exterior application or in any type of a wet area. The main problem is this: if wood gets wet it expands and warps, which will cause tile failure. Concrete is the best surface with which to bond ceramic tile or stone. If you can't do the best mortar bed method then the next best thing to do is install over a cement backer board. If all else fails, then bond to wood, but make sure you do it properly. If you do install over wood make sure the floor has no more of a deflection than L/360 for ceramic tile. It is recommended to have two layers of 5/8" plywood on joists spaced at 16" on center. You can use a modified epoxy for adhering the tile to the wood or a Latex or Polymer Modified thin-set that is recommended for bonding to wood. Go to the page on this web site for installation products. There are some very flexible latex modified thin-sets that are good for bonding to wood.
Updated: September 23rd 2008
Warming Tile - We are building a new home and I am wondering which type of tile would be warmer on the feet,ceramic or porcelain? It will be installed on a subfloor.
ANSWER - Porcelain tile is a type of ceramic tile. They are both clay based material. Generally Porcelain tile is more dense than many ceramic tiles, but not always. There is no significant difference in using one dense tile versus the other for floor warming. Actually today there are floor warming systems that can be incorporated into the tile installation as a reasonable cost. There are electrical floor warming systems that are thin and there are radiant heating systems that require a thicker application for embedding the water pipes for the hot water to run through. Each as there pros and cons. For more information on floor warming systems go to our website at www.CTaSC.com and visit the Resources and Links section of the site under Floor Warming Systems http://www.ctasc.com/Resources_and_Links/Floor_Warming_Systems/Floor_Warming_System.html. Good Luck!
Updated: March 22nd 2008
Flush Sinks in Granite Top - Granite counter top sink cutouts are not as I ordered. I ordered the sink cutouts on counter tops made for our kitchen to be made FLUSH with the sink bowls.The sink manufacturer specified this on the prep sink cutout for accessories but not on the two bowl sink. I ordered the two bowl to be flush as well to match.They had both sinks in house and I provided them detailed drawings for reference.The tops were delivered with a 3/16 reveal on both sinks. The fabricator claims they are both to industry standards and refused to replace them. They say my directions were not writen into the contract so I should take them the way they are or take them to court. Do I have a legitimate gripe here or am I stuck with tops? Where could I acquire a copy of "industry standards"for the granite counter top industry? I tried the local BBB and NARI. They could not help.
ANSWER - The Marble Institute of America (MIA) Design Manual does not discuss flush mounted sinks. It is more common to have a reveal and not common to flush mount sinks. I would be concerned about the transition joint between the slab and sink and I would make sure it is properly treated with an appropriate sealant (caulking) as it would tend to be a point of failure that could lead to water intrusion under the cabinet. If the sink specifications were clearly communicated as being flush mounted then it should have been installed that way. The MIA website is at www.marble-institute.com if you want to check with them. Good Luck!
Updated: February 26th 2008
Exterior Deck Installation - We are going to set porcelain tile on an exterior wood deck next week. We will install cementitious backer board first. Question is, since weather will likely be in 30's and 40's in the mornings, do we need to use a special thinset? We use a very good quality polymer fortified thinset for most every job. Will this be OK in the colder temps? We're talking high desert in AZ.
ANSWER - Beware of exterior decks and particularly when they are over a wood substrate. There are many exterior deck failures that become very expensive to replace. The TCNA handbook does not show an exterior deck over wood framing, but only over a concrete slab. There are notes in the TCNA handbook that says with appropriate precautions you can install over a wood substrate for exterior applications that are not subject to freeze thaw conditions by using either a wire reinforced mortar bed per TCNA F141 or with cementitious backer board (CBU) per TCNA F144. Keep in mind that only exterior grade plywood is recommended for the subfloor and the bottom of the plywood deck needs to be covered so it isn't subject to getting damp. If the plywood gets wet it will expand and warp. The substrate can not have excessive deflection and must be in conformance with IRC and other applicable building codes. Deflection can not exceed 1/360 of the span when measured under a 300 lb concentrated load. You need to slope the deck to a drain or to the edge of the deck into a drainage trough so the water can escape and not cause staining at the edges. There needs to be a waterproof membrane over the sloped surface with a slope to drain of 1/4" per foot within the membrane surface. I'm not sure how you are going to create your slope with CBU, but you could try to apply a patch material that is designed to be applied at 1" thick and down to a feather edge. It would be better to put a roofing membrane on the wood subfloor and then apply a wire reinforced mortar bed sloped to drain and then apply another waterproof membrane on its surface. Schluter (www.schluter.com) has a system called Bekotec that is used with their Detra membrane system that they might recommend for this application. Of course you need to have expansion joints at the perimeters and throughout every 8' to 12' in each direction. The expansion joint sealant must meet ASTM C920 per TCNA EJ171 and installed correctly (this is not latex caulking, but rather a structural silicone or a urethane sealant). You will need to put a tent up and use electrical heaters to keep the surface at least over 40 degrees F. Don't use propane heaters because they can cause problems. Check out the data sheet for the modified thin-set you are using and follow their instructions. It is not easy or cheap to do it the right way, but on the other hand it gets extremely expensive if it fails.
Updated: January 9th 2008
Installing 18" x 18" tile in a bathroom - I am tiling my bathroom and want to use 18x18 tiles on the wall (wet area over backer board, dry area over drywall). Can I do that? Is there anything special I would need?
ANSWER - Yes you can install 18 x 18 inch ceramic tiles or stone tiles over a backer board in the shower and over drywall in the adjacent bathroom wall area if done correctly. Most ceramic tiles and stones would be suitable for this application, but you must confirm with the product's manufacturer and producer. The shower has to be properly waterproofed first. The shower pan has to be constructed correctly to allow for proper slope and waterproofing. The walls have to have moisture barrier behind the backer board. The transition areas have to be caulked with a proper sealant including the transition from the backerboard to the drywall. The drywall should be water resistant green board or better e.g. Denshield. There are a lot of things that need to be done correctly to ensure a good performing and lasting tile installation. For guidelines to a proper installation click on the following link: CTaSC Installation Guidelines. Good Luck!
Updated: December 16th 2007
Sound Control Flooring Systems - I need info for material recommended for sound dampening underlayment material to be installed atop concrete flooring & under ceramic tile. Our Condo Association requires but can't find source.
ANSWER - Beware that there are many thin underlayments sold as sound control mats for ceramic tile and stone installations that do not significantly reduce sound transmission under certain floor configurations. The product data sheet for the sound control mats may show sound control performance values of a 50 STC and 50 IIC, but they may only be based on floors that have a suspended ceiling underneath and may not show any significant benefit if there isn't a suspended ceiling, which is the key to sound control for that application. There are some cork and other sound control mats that are as thin as 1/2 inch that do claim that they can achieve the IIC of 50 and at 56 STC over an 8 inch thick suspended concrete slab. There are other sound control systems that can achieve much hire ratings for either floor configuration, but will require thicker and more expensive floor configurations. You should always be sure to work with a sound consultant or a tile consultant such as www.CTaSC.com.
Updated: April 7th 2007
Tile over Tile Installation - I am considering installing travertine or marble flooring over existing 8" ceramic tile. The job is less than 1000 square feet and the existing tile is very secure and level. Also, the additional height to the floor will not pose any problems. Can you please provide any tips or advice regarding this situation. I am thinking there would be a specific type of thin-set which one would need to use in order to obtain excellent adherence to the smooth tile surface.
ANSWER - It is an industry acceptable method to install tile over tile. The first important step is to verify that the existing tile is bonded substantially well to the substrate, since it is the foundation and your new installation and will be no better than its weakest point. Make sure there are no cracks, loose or hollow sounding tiles. Next is to scarify (grind) and thoroughly clean the surface of the existing tile to remove any contaminates (dirt, sealers, etc) that could act as a bond breaker. Then select a thin-set mortar for bonding the new tile to the old. The thin-set should meet ANSI A118.4 and be latex or polymer modified thin-set and be recommended for this application. Go to our Resources and Links section of our website at the “Installation Products” section to find a manufacturer with the appropriate thin-set who offers at least a Single Source 10 year labor and material warranty. Be sure to install ¼” wide expansion joints at the perimeter of the installation and throughout the installation every 20 to 25 feet in each direction. Good Luck!
Updated: April 1st 2007
Tile Installation over Cracks - I am building a house in Florida, and the slab is a year old, and its cracked. Before I install the ceramic tile, should I use any kind of underlayment to prevent the tile from cracking, and if yes, what kind? Can I use roof paper as an underlayment? I will appreciate your answer, thank you!
Answer: You can not install ceramic tile or stone over cracked concrete without making repairs or providing additional protection or the cracks will continue through the tiles. If the cracks are structural cracks (they move vertically) then the concrete slab is defective and needs to be properly repaired as determined by a structural engineer. If the cracks are shrinkage cracks (horizontal movement only) then with some limitations you can isolate those cracks with an appropriate crack isolation membrane meeting ANSI A118.12. You can isolate only the cracks or apply to the whole floor for full projection. Go to our www.CTaSC.com website under resources and installation products to get links to manufacturers who provide these products at CTaSC Resources Installation Products. You can not use a roofing paper for crack isolation because it doesn't meet the ANSI standards and under certain conditions it is known to fail. Good Luck!
Updated: August 20th 2006
Exterior Tile Installation - We purchased some ceramic tiles showing St. Jude in Santa Fe recently. We would like to use them outside in a small shrine. What should they be mounted on, with what type of mastic and what kind of grout. Maryland weather can be freezing or hot. The tiles would be covered on top, back and sides but open in the front.
I will briefly give you some idea of how you need to proceed. Our company does consult with architects and owners on specifying installation systems at the rate of $200 per hour and we could assist you if you wanted to employ our services. Concrete is always the best surface to attach tile. Never use mastic on exterior applications because it isn't a long lasting type of adhesive. Climatic conditions are important. Your tile needs to be a freeze thaw stable with a water absorption rate of less than 3% or it can be damaged from the freezing. You need to use a quality type of sealant at the transition joints such as an exterior grade silicone sealant. Grout can be cementitious if the rest of the system works well. There are impervious epoxy grouts you can use. I would also recommend using a waterproof membrane over the concrete substrate before you attach the tile. You should visit our website under Resources and links and under Installation products to see some of the various products and systems available. Good Luck!
Updated: August 9th 2005
Removing the old tile - I have a 15 year old outdoor patio consisting of 12 x 12 ceramic tiles placed over a cement foundation. The tiles are cracking and I would like to remove tiles (slippery, indoor tiles) and replace them with outdoor tile. My problem is how do I remove the tiles along with the adhesive to make the cement "clean and level" to accept new tiles?
First thing is to determine why the tile cracked, so you can make sure your new installation does not crack. If the cracks are structural (vertical movement) you have to do some major repairs. If the cracks are simply shrinkage cracks then you can apply a crack isolation sheet over it and then install the tile to it. What to use to remove the tile depends on what was used to attach them to the concrete. If it was a cementitious thin-set adhesive and the tile is well bonded then you need to use a chisel and hammer or use a jack hammer with a wide chisel end. Next either chisel, grind or blast the slab to remove all of the adhesive and to leave a nice clean and abraded surface. If too much of the slab came with the tile then you need to apply a cementitious patch material to flatten, level or slope the surface. Assuming the cracks are shrinkage cracks then apply a crack isolation membrane and thin-set the tile to the membrane with a good quality latex or polymer modified thin-set. For a list of major manufacturers who make these products go to our website under Links and Resources under Installation Products (click here). Good Luck!
Updated: July 17th 2005
